While I am working on VABS, I get confused about when we should include derivative terms since there is no example problem provided in example files. I get internal forces/moments from GEBT and put them into the VABS input file. Even if the load is distributed, as far as I know, GEBT does not give derivative terms of forces/moments. Does it mean we should not only put internal forces obtained by GEBT but also the derivatives of them (by performing hand calculations) when we have distributed load?
I would appreciate it if you could help me handling this error.
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Nisa, the derivatives for distributed forces/moments are applied loads. They are given. You can evaluate them by hand. They are different from those obtained by GEBT, those are internally force/moment resultants.
For example, beam in the attached file, we have uniform distributed load f. As far as I understand when we want to solve this problem, we can use F1 M1 M2 M3 F2 F3 (let’s say large_F) or f1 f2 f3 m1 m2 m3 (let’s say small_f).
(I use the same notations in the VABS-manual.)
Large_Fs are the internal loads applied in the cross-section. They can be obtained from GEBT by writing the external loads in the input file. This is how I perform my analyses.
What about small_fs? As I understand from what you said, they are the external loads; but I do not get the logic behind the giving external loads in the cross-section since in VABS we do not define the whole model. If they are the external loads, are they calculated by f1=f*x (x=location of the cross-section we are interested)? If no, how should we calculate these small_fs?
At the end, large_Fs and small_fs give the same stress output, right?
Internal forces/moments will be the major contributors. Small f/m and their derivatives are also needed to recover stresses but not major contributor. You need to read the recovery theory about VABS to find out why. Briefly, when I transform to Timoshenko model, we need to use 1D equilibrium equation, that introduce f/m into the VABS formulation.
Meryem Nisa Ataç @ on — Edited @ on
While I am working on VABS, I get confused about when we should include derivative terms since there is no example problem provided in example files. I get internal forces/moments from GEBT and put them into the VABS input file. Even if the load is distributed, as far as I know, GEBT does not give derivative terms of forces/moments. Does it mean we should not only put internal forces obtained by GEBT but also the derivatives of them (by performing hand calculations) when we have distributed load?
I would appreciate it if you could help me handling this error.
Kind regards..
Aref Fahadan Hajipour @ on
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Kind regards..
AnalySwift LLC @ on — Edited @ on
Hello Araf,
Thank your or your interest in VABS. You may request the VABS code from info@analyswift.com or access it online through the following links below.
Wenbin Yu @ on
Nisa, the derivatives for distributed forces/moments are applied loads. They are given. You can evaluate them by hand. They are different from those obtained by GEBT, those are internally force/moment resultants.
Meryem Nisa Ataç @ on
Thank you Prof. Yu. I am going to prepare a simple input file for it.
Kind regards...
Meryem Nisa Ataç @ on
For example, beam in the attached file, we have uniform distributed load f. As far as I understand when we want to solve this problem, we can use F1 M1 M2 M3 F2 F3 (let’s say large_F) or f1 f2 f3 m1 m2 m3 (let’s say small_f).
(I use the same notations in the VABS-manual.)
Large_Fs are the internal loads applied in the cross-section. They can be obtained from GEBT by writing the external loads in the input file. This is how I perform my analyses.
What about small_fs? As I understand from what you said, they are the external loads; but I do not get the logic behind the giving external loads in the cross-section since in VABS we do not define the whole model. If they are the external loads, are they calculated by f1=f*x (x=location of the cross-section we are interested)? If no, how should we calculate these small_fs?
At the end, large_Fs and small_fs give the same stress output, right?
Thank you..
Wenbin Yu @ on
Internal forces/moments will be the major contributors. Small f/m and their derivatives are also needed to recover stresses but not major contributor. You need to read the recovery theory about VABS to find out why. Briefly, when I transform to Timoshenko model, we need to use 1D equilibrium equation, that introduce f/m into the VABS formulation.